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Abarth



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: S1 Covered Headlight Conversion Reply with quote

Dear fellow E-type lovers,

I wanted to consult you on the subject of converting the open headlights to covered S1 versions. I own a series 1.5 e-type on which I have the open units. I know some of the purists among you will cringe at the idea of tampering with originality but I plan to keep mine for life and as such I want to incorporate the features that I love the most in these cars. This leads me to my first question: a marque specialist once told me that owners of S1.5 cars in period often sent their cars back to Browns Lane to retro fit covered headlights. Do any of you know if this is true?

My second and more burning question is how is this conversion done? I have seen a German kit on the market which looks very nicely engineered but I would prefer to use the original parts to get the shape and dimensions absolutely correct? How can this be achieved though? Do I need to need to modify the actual bonnet? Have any of you had experience with this conversion.

With many thanks in advance for your advice,

Arnoud
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: S1 Covered Headlight Conversion Reply with quote

Yes,it can be done using original (repro) parts. If you look at the Classic Jaguar website (www.classicjaguar.com) and refer to their blog, you will see details of a car that they converted. There is a lot of work to be done to the bonnet whch will require a respray when complete.

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arnoud

The subject has been covered earlier here: http://etypeuk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1404

There is also a description of the DIY conversion here: http://www.newhillgarage.com/Page58.html

A couple of companies who offer conversion kits:

Wahlsinn (S2 & S3 cowled headlight conversion kits): http://www.wahlsinn.com/?lang=en
Jag-eyes (S2 & S3 covered headlights): http://www.jag-eyes.com

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Abarth



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Angus and David,

Thank you both very kindly for your prompt replies. I have read through the previous thread and now understand that there is much more involved than I previously thought. The conversion kits that fit directly into the post series one openings look more and more like an elegant solution.

Best regards,

Arnoud
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Arnoud,

I have sent you a private reply.

I have just done the conversion on my series 2 bonnet using parts of the Wahlsin kit.- plastic covers and trim.

As I had the bonnet stripped and apart as part of the total ground up restoration, i had new sugar scoops and whole headlight assembly refabricated.

A relatively doable conversion if you have a good panel beater with experience on e-type bonnets.

Alternatively, based on the instructions provided by Peter of Wahlsin, you dont have to go as far as i did and should be able to do the conversion without pulling the bonnet apart.

regards,
john

It looks very good- very close to original series 1 covered in headlight. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures please Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abarth wrote:
The conversion kits that fit directly into the post series one openings look more and more like an elegant solution.

Best regards,

Arnoud


Beware. As far as I know neither of the commerically-available kits will fit a Series 1.5 car. This means you are lucky/unlucky depending on your point of view.

The good news is that the Series 1.5 bonnet, when converted, has the right 'mouth' and indicators etc and will look indistinguishable from a correct Series 1. This is not true for Series 2 or 3 conversions.

The other bit of good news, sort-of, is that the Series 1.5 lamp openings are closer to Series 1 than the rather different S2/S3 openings. It is a moot point once you are cutting and shutting and painting, but it does mean a little less work overall I think and you could revert to S1 off-the shelf diaphragms and bowls too.

The point remains, however, that the two kits for sale don't and won't fit, as they are matched to the S2/S3 openings and, in the case of the Jag-Eyes, even the existing S2/S3 lamp trims themselves.

Pete

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

thank you for your clarification-quite correct.

regards,
john
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just emailed Stefan about this, and from my understanding he does make a kit for the 1.5 series cars...
Maybe some Germans could talk to him, as his English isn't perfect :-O Sorry Stefan if you ever read this Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could do it.

What do you need me to do ?

Carsten, Kraut....
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